Post details: Bynari Insight Server

02/21/05

Permalink 09:10:42 pm, Categories: Calendaring, 600 words   English (US)

Bynari Insight Server

A few years ago I heard of a company called Bynari that was working on an Exchange replacement. In fact at my previous job it came down to either Bynari Insight Server or Communigate Pro. The reason I picked the latter was twofold. One, I had pretty good experience with using Communigate in a large ISP environment (1 million users). Two, the storage system I had was a NAS mounted via NFS, and (at the time) Cyrus IMAP (which was included with Bynari) had many caveats listed on their site about using NFS. They didn't recommend it.

These days I have no such restriction and am free to experiment. I downloaded the latest eval version. What I like about Bynari is it's primarily based on open source tools: Apache, OpenLDAP, Cyrus IMAP, Postfix, ProFTPD, Amavis, SpamAssassin, Clamav, etc. Installation was a cinch on CentOS. Their site mentions Debian support as well, but strangely I only see RPMs.

So what's good about it? The web admin is surprisingly straightforward. It's probably the first interface that that actually makes LDAP comprehensible. It was easy for me to setup domains, add users, etc. The webmail/groupware interface is also pretty nice. This is probably the most important thing I'm looking for, because I want to remove dependency on Outlook. I don't much care about the Outlook Connectors and such. Bynari's webmail is not Outlook Web Access, but does have a decent calendar interface. You can schedule meetings and see shared folders via the web client. It's lightweight and things work as expected. I did like the way Cyrus was storing messages: plain text files. Maybe Cyrus was just configured to run this way, because I remember it using Berkeley DB files in the past.

Some problems I noticed was when someone accepted or rejected a meeting, the attendee response is not visible in the original calendar entry. You can't tell whether someone accepted or rejected it. This seems a bug to me, which I've asked their support about. Also, on the recipient end, the calendar entry does not include the attendee information. So I can imagine users having questions like "Who was this meeting with again?"

I tried to migrate a 1.9gig PST file. Bynari provides a PST import tool via the web interface. But come on, 1.9gigs submitted in a web form? It crashed my Safari, and Firefox said "blow me." That import method does not seem useful to me. The way I imported data in Communigate was to install their Outlook connector, and use Outlook to import the PST. Well I tried the same with Bynari, and it pretty much crashed Outlook... sigh. Next I tried just copying from PST to the IMAP server in Outlook, which again crashed. I do have to get data from Outlook users into whatever server we use, and I want that to be done easily.

Meanwhile Scalix got some good press at LinuxWorld. It seems their new version has improved the admin interface, which was sorely lacking in the version I tested. I like Scalix's webmail interface, but I hate the complexity of the HP openmail system. It reminds me of people being hired just to administer openmail. It's a fucking mail server, it doesn't have to be this complicated! Looking at the Scalix manual all you see are chapters filled with cryptic om(insert-jobsecurity-acronym-here) commands. It's just silly to expect someone to spend time learning this crap, because when something goes wrong in such a closed system, no one will know how to fix it.

It looks like Communigate is still the choice for us.

Comments, Pingbacks:

Comment from: David Hajek [Visitor] · http://hajek.net/blog/
Good post. I'm doing similar evaluation. Among others (Kolab, OpenExchange) I do evaluation of Lotus Domino, which looks promising so far.
I want to have a look on Kerio system as well, any experience with it?
Permalink 02/22/05 @ 10:30
Comment from: pete [Visitor]
The only reliable way to import a PST file to an open format is Thunderbird. Install it on a Windows with Outlook and tell it to import Outlook mail. When it's done importing, find the dir where Thunderbird stores its mail and it's all in mbox format iirc. Then use mb2md or a similar script to convert to Maildir or whatever you want server-side.
Permalink 03/02/05 @ 12:40
Comment from: Andy [Visitor]
Good article!

In dealing with importing PST's from outlook, they gave me a file simply titled ExportPST (strange name) but basically you put in the path to the pst, your login/pass for the imap server and it does the importing. I had a large (1.3 gb) PST and it took a while, but when it was all said and done, everything was there, and it had preserved the seen/unseen information. Kinda nice.

I have had a few problems though with getting their server working -- myself. Some of which are dealing with the spamassassin. For some reason it will not scan my messages. I've tried every config under the sun, with no luck. In the header it does put that it's scanned the message for viruses using Amavis, but no mention of spamd makes it.

Oh well, just thought I'd share. I see this thread is over a year old.. so not expecting much.


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